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dci 1.6 130bg motor scenic'ten sonra Qashqai'de
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Cevap: dci 1.6 130bg motor scenic'ten sonra Qashqai'de (2. sayfa)
| Ben türkiyeye gelmeden yapılmış saymam.Renaultun internet sitesine girdiğimde motor seçeneklerinde 1.6 160 hp yazıyorsa tamamdır.Yoksa tanıtıldı ama kimbilir ne zaman gelecek.Multiair 170 hp nin tanıtılalı 1 yıl oldu ama hala fıat markasında kullanılmıyor.1.4 140 HP Olan yeni geldi. |
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Megané II 1.5 dCi'de uzun yolda fabrika değerlerinin altına inen bir sürü kullanıcı vardı 
"-kardeş hoş geldin, ne içersin?" "-ne olursa içerim abi"  |
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi Arif -- 12 Nisan 2011; 17:45:04 >
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< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi Arif -- 12 Nisan 2011; 17:45:47 >
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< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi kizashi -- 12 Nisan 2011; 18:01:44 >
170 hp lik motor alfa romeo giulietta da satışa sunuluyor |
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1.6 energy dci orjinal basın bildirisi: ******************** PRESS RELEASE Global Marketing and Corporate Communications 68 quai Georges Gorse – 92109 Boulogne Billancourt Cedex Tel.: + 33 (0)1 76 84 63 36 Sites:www.renault.com &www.media.renault.com April 14, 2011 Renault starts production of its new “Energy dci 130” diesel engine at the Cléon site in France The Cléon site is starting production of the new flagship in Renault’s powertrain range, the Diesel Energy dCi 130 (R9M type). Developed by Renault, the Energy dCi 130 benefits from the know-how of the engineering team at the Rueil-Malmaison centre outside Paris, (Hauts-de-Seine) in the design of benchmark diesel engines, such as the 1.5 dCi, 2.0 dCi, 2.3 dCi and V6 dCi. This Alliance engine will be fitted on Renault and Nissan brands European mid-range vehicles (C segment). At Renault, it will be available primarily on Scénic and then Mégane. Developing 130 hp for a capacity of 1.6l, the new engine slots in between the dCi 110 range (also known as 1.5 dCi or K9K) and the dCi 150 to 180 hp (also known as 2.0 dCi or M9R). This new engine is the first in the new generation of “Energy” combustion powertrains. It features a raft of CO2-reducing technologies never before seen at this level of the range. They include a stop&start system with regenerative braking but also, as a European premiere, a new EGR* cold loop. It will be the most efficient diesel engine in its category, with fuel consumption and CO2 emissions that are 20% lower than for its predecessor. Renault’s ambition is to produce and make widely available an innovative, high-quality engine that respects the environment. The new engine will be built solely at the Cléon site. The site, which is specialized in producing engines of high technical content, has put in place an innovative industrial plan to ensure a high level of productivity and outstanding quality standards. The new unit is expected to account for around 30% of the site’s total engine output from 2012. Production currently involves around 450 people on-site. * EGR: Exhaust Gas Recirculation 2 1. An Alliance engine designed for European mid-range Renault and Nissan vehicles (C segment ) The Energy dCi 130 engine was developed by the Renault-Nissan Alliance, like the existing 2.0 dCi and V6 dCi units, and the future TCe 90 and TCe 115. Through this cooperation, Renault and Nissan were able to share costs and cut investment spend, for a total outlay of €230 million. The Alliance drew on Renault’s expertise in designing diesel engines. The Energy dCi 130 was designed at Rueil-Malmaison by the team led by Jacques Prost, Senior Vice-President, Powertrain Engineering, for the Group. For the Alliance, Renault has developed an engine tailored to the needs of the European market, i.e. a dynamic diesel unit with generous torque and a range of technologies to cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, both of which are particularly low for an engine with this level of power. The Alliance also chose Renault to build the engine, in order to take advantage of the Group’s expertise in producing diesel powertrains of high technical content. The new engine is built solely by the Renault-Cléon plant in Normandy. The decision to produce the engine at just one site for both groups will bring economies of scale. From next year, the plant will be able to produce up to 150,000 Energy dCi 130 engines per year. This maximum installed capacity is expected to grow over the coming years. The new engine is designed for Renault and Nissan European mid-range vehicles in the Csegment. At Renault, it will be available primarily on Mégane and Scénic and extended later to other models.. It will also be fitted on some Nissan models in the future. 2. The Energy dCi 130 engine : the first representative in a new generation of Alliance combustion engines The new Energy dCi 130, the first in the “Energy” family, will gradually replace the old 1.9l dCi 130 unit (F9Q type). Illustrating Renault quality and excellence in engine design, the new family will comprise both petrol and diesel engines, combining performance, driving pleasure and low fuel consumption with respect for the environment. To this end, the engines will feature technologies never before seen at their level of the range. Renault filed 15 patents as part of the design of the new Energy dCi 130 engine. As a result of these new technologies, the engine is highly driveable, with output of 130 hp and 320 Nm of 3 torque. At the same time, fuel consumption and CO2 emissions are 20% lower than for its predecessor. With these innovations, both Scénic and Mégane will carry the eco² eco-signature, now based on more stringent criteria1. Scénic will emit just 117g of CO2/km, taking it below the new threshold of 120g CO2/km. The Energy dCi 130 is the first Renault engine to feature stop & start, along with a function to recover braking energy. It is also equipped with other innovative features such as lowpressure EGR and thermal management. These technologies will be revealed in greater detail from May 2011. According to Alice de Brauer, Vice-President, Environmental Strategy Plan, at Renault: “The Energy dCi 130 shows that Renault is improving the environmental performance of its combustion engines. With this engine, our customers will be able to cut their CO2 emissions and fuel consumption by 20%, compared with the old engine”. Like other recent Renault engines, such as the 2.0 dCi and 2.3 dCi, and in line with the Group’s downsizing strategy, the 1.6l Energy dCi 130 replaces an engine of greater capacity: the 1.9 dCi. Downsizing involves reducing the cubic capacity of an engine in order to cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, while maintaining levels of performance. As a result, the Energy dCi 130 is a perfect fit, with Renault’s powertrain strategy, which aims to make the Group European leader for low CO2 emissions by 2015. Renault’s objective: to be European leader for low CO2 emissions by 2015 Renault is aiming to be European leader for the lowest fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. To this end, looking beyond improvements made to the vehicles themselves (weight, drag, tyres, etc.), Renault is deploying an innovative strategy based on the development of allelectric motors and on breakthrough technologies for combustion engines and transmissions. This is the challenge set for the new Energy engines. Based on new-generation downsizing, they will feature the latest technologies in order to offer the best CO2 emissions and consumption levels together with everyday driving pleasure. Thanks to these innovations, the average emissions of Renault’s European range will fall from 137 g/km today to less than 120 g/km in 2013 and then, with the electric vehicle, to 100 g/km in 2016. Renault has also committed to reducing its global carbon footprint by 10% in 2013 and by another 10% between 2013 and 2016. 1 Today, to be eligible for the eco² signature, Renault vehicles must be built at ISO 14001 certified sites, they must emit less than 120g of CO2 (compared with 140g previously), include 7% (5% previously) of recycled plastics and be 95% recoverable. 4 3. An engine developed by Renault engineers at Rueil-Malmaison, based on the Group’s expertise in diesel technology The R9M project started in 2006. The Powertrain Engineering department was asked to develop a 130 hp low consumption, low carbon engine, with no trade-off in driveability. A brand new engine : The engineers decided to gradually phase out the F9Q engine (1.9 dCi 130) from 2011. This engine had reached its maximum upgrade potential with the transition to the Euro 5 standard. Further optimization studies, to cut fuel consumption and emissions in particular, would be more complex and require greater investment in the longer term than starting from scratch with a new engine. Renault decided to design a new engine. Of the 274 parts making up this engine, 75% are new. This enabled the engineering team to incorporate advanced technologies right from the start. These technologies ensure engine reliability, and drastically reduce both fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. According to Eric Blanchard, Energy dCi 130 Engine Project Leader: “We were able to take advantage of the latest technological developments and have a totally free rein in conception and design in order to ensure the highest standards of engine excellence on launch”. An engine integrating future evolutions : The Energy dCi 130 engine is also designed to be upgraded over time. New technologies can be added on. It will naturally be possible to add the new components necessary to make the engine compatible with the stringent Euro 6 standard. A top of the range design quality : The designers of the Energy dCi 130 engine sought to ensure excellence in design quality. They drew upon feedback for the 2.0 dCi and V6 dCi engines, which have already attained high levels of reliability. Today, these engines are considered to set the standard for quality on the market. A total 25% of the components for Energy dCi 130 come from these engines. This carryover promises reliability for the future. At the same time, all the new parts were subject to continuous, advanced quality monitoring through strict application of a “Design to Quality” plan. 5 Design to Quality This development process makes quality the central concern in decision-making. A series of processes pick up any problems identified at each stage of the project. The experience acquired in quality management with Nissan is implemented in the development and production process. Design to Quality management also relies on feedback from the field on carryover parts, as well as on a detailed risk analysis accompanied by specific approval plans for new parts. To be sure of making the right decisions in terms of quality, the engineering team developed new special approval cycles. This was the case for low-pressure EGR, stop and start and thermal management. Following these tests, the engineers further enhanced technical part specifications in order to ensure that the engine would stand up to the stress caused by these innovations. Overall, the Energy dCi 130 engine underwent more than 15,000 hours of bench tests, involving around thirty engines, and endured more than 400,000 km of test driving on a track. For Jean-Pierre Vallaude, Senior Vice-President, Quality, at Renault: “Renault has made huge progress in terms of quality over the past ten years or so. Our engines now stand as benchmarks in their segments for reliability, durability and driveability. The new Energy dCi 130 unit is the new flagship in Renault’s engine range. I am absolutely convinced that quality will meet the highest standards”. Jacques Prost, Senior Vice-President, Powertrain Engineering, at Renault, said: “I’m proud of our workforce. The men and women at Renault Powertrain Engineering have designed a remarkable engine. Our brand has picked up nine Formula 1 championship titles as an engine manufacturer and we also know how to design benchmark production engines!” Examples of extreme tests carried out at the Lardy test centre near Paris: Vibration test: the engine runs for hundreds of hours at 4000 rpm. The engine is stopped one hour a day to monitor a check-list of points and detect any defects (cracks in parts, leaks, melting from heating). The cycle is repeated 10 million times. Maximum torque/maximum power test: The engine runs for 100 hours at maximum power (130ch at 4,000 rpm) and then for 100 hours at maximum torque (320Nm at 1,750 rpm). This test lasts 600 hours. Hot/cold test: The engine is revved to 4,000 rpm, then stopped for 20 minutes, then taken back up to 4,000 rpm. This cycle is repeated 5,000 times over a eight-week period. The objective is to check that oil and coolant temperatures are consistent with the forecasts of engine engineers. 6 4. The new engine is manufactured at Cléon, a site specialized in the production of engines with high technical content The new Renault Energy dCi 130 engine is built exclusively at the Cléon plant in Normandy. In 2010 with 4191 employees, the site produced 470,120 engines and 690,199 gearboxes with a workforce of 3,358. Cléon is specialized in engines with high technical content.It currently produces the following powertrains : - 2.0 dCi diesel (130 hp to 180 hp, fitted on Renault Mégane, Koleos, Laguna, Latitude and Espace and also on Nissan models, including the Qashqai) - 2.3 dCi (100 hp to 150 hp, fitted on New Master) - V6 dCi : featuring 235 hp for Laguna Coupé and 240 hp for Latitude, and with a north south mounted 238 hp version fitted on Nissan Navarra, Pathfinder and on Infiniti EX, FX and G). - the 2.0 petrol engine for Clio Renault Sport and the 2.0 Turbo for Mégane Renault Sport. The site also manufactures 5- and 6-speed gearboxes (J and P type gearboxes). As part of the Energy dCi 130 project, Renault has so far invested €51 million in the plant. The Group has created an assembly line and a machining line for the cylinder block and has adapted existing flexible lines (cylinder head, crankshaft and connecting rod). Thanks to the hard work of the staff and by favoring industrial carryover, Renault managed to reduce costs and time taken to launch production of the engine by three months compared with the 2.0 dCi. For Jean-Marc Biard, Industrial Project Manager, “The dCi 130 Energy engine is the result of close collaboration between the engineering and manufacturing teams. It testifies to the solidarity and great expertise of Renault’s staff in powertrain manufacturing.” The plant followed the Renault Production Way, the Group’s industrial management standard, to implement the best production practices on the new line. As a result, Cléon has and will have excellent productivity while maintaining an extremely high level of quality. Some examples : - The line works according to the principle of kitting/picking. Operators working in a preparation area fill a basket with the items necessary for engine assembly, such as belts and pulleys (“kitting”). The basket is automatically transported by an automated fork-lift truck to operators on the line, according to the Integrated Factory Automation method. The kit is received by 7 assembly operators (“picking”). These processes boost productivity and optimize quality by significantly reducing the risk of parts error. - To ensure the success of the new engine in terms of quality, a laser system checks the geometry of each unit for full compliance. These controls have a precision of up to one micron. - Renault also decided that 100% of the engines produced would be put through an onsite test bench at start-up. Each engine undergoes a 10-minute validation test. Philippe Nottez, General Manager of the Cléon plant: “The Cléon plant and its entire workforce are proud to produce the new Energy dCi 130 engine, and to thus play a major role in Renault’s strategy. We are committed to meeting our industrial objectives in terms of quality, cost and growth”. 5. The Energy dCi 130 engine: one of the first illustrations of the Drive the Change 2016 strategic plan The new Energy dCi 130 engine perfectly illustrates Renault’s strategic directions. Productwise, it makes a top-level powertrain accessible to all.It reflects Renault’s ambition to develop engines with better environmental performance, on fuel consumption and CO2 emissions alike. It shows that Renault aims to position itself among the leading carmakers on quality. And it also demonstrates that Renault is maintaining its presence in France, by designing and producing this new powerplant in the country. Commenting, Gérard Leclercq, Executive Vice President, Manufacturing and Supply Chain and a member of Renault’s Group Executive Committee, said: “Renault has committed to maintaining industrial presence in France, by producing high value-added vehicles and powertrain components. The example of the new Energy dCi 130 engine shows that we are upholding and will continue to uphold this commitment. Cléon will also begin producing an electric motor in 2013. We have true industrial expertise in France and we do not want to lose it. Our French plants have a future.” 8 1.6 dCi 130 – Technical Specification Type (Renault) R9M Cubic capacity (cc) 1,598 Bore x stroke (mm) 80 x 79.5 Number of cylinders/valves 4/16 Compression ratio 15.4:1 Maximum power 96kW (130hp) at 4,000rpm Maximum torque 320Nm, from 1,750rpm Fuel-injection type Common rail Depollution standard Euro5 Transmission Six-speed manual (Type ND4) First appearance in the range Scénic and Grand Scénic. Later extension to the Megane family Fuel consumption (European mixed cycle) 4,5 l/100km CO2 emissions 117g/km Press contact: Renault Press: 01 76 84 63 36 www.media.renault.com &www.renault.com ************************* satır aralarına bakıldığında motorun proje başlangıç tarihi 2006 yılı ilk etapta (önce scenic ve grand scenic) Renault ve Nissan orta sınıf(C) araçlarında kullanılacağı belirtilmiş. motor için 230 milyon euro proje harcaması yapılmış ve diğer dci motorlara kıyasla %75 yeni parçadan oluşuyor |
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motor karma tüketimde 4.4 lt/100km ve 115 gr CO2 salınımı değerlerine sahip motorda 30'dan fazla patent var ****** The Energy dCi 130 engine is based on a particularly efficient design which features a ‘square’ architecture derived from Renault’s experience in F1, plus an unprecedented technological package (more than 30 patents for this size of engine. • A carefully-developed Stop&Start system combined with deceleration/regenerative braking • Cold-loop, low-pressure exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Renault is the first manufacturer to introduce this technology in Europe • Thermal management technology • Variable displacement oil pump • Variable swirl technology • A multi-injection system designed to optimise particulate filter regeneration ************ motor gelişiminde Renault'un F1 motorlarını üreten virgy fabrikası da katkıda bulunmuş *********** From F1 to road cars: in continued pursuit of mechanical excellence The Energy dCi 130 is also the fruit of collaboration between the engine specialists working out of Reuil and Viry-Chatillon Thanks to the privileged ties they enjoy with Renault Sport F1, the engine specialists who work out of Reuil in France were able to profit from the expertise of Viry-Chatillon, also in France, to carry over a certain number of technologies developed and fine-tuned by their F1 colleagues to the world of production cars. This technology transfer was facilitated by Philippe Coblence, the design office manager for the R9M project. Philippe formerly held the same position at Viry-Chatillon where he worked on Formula 1 engines at the beginning of the last decade. ********************** motor üzerinde bazı yenilikler ********* Maintaining outstanding performance o Internal engine aerodynamics: work on the acoustics of the air intake ducts for optimal filling of the combustion chambers. o Turbo technology: the low-inertia variable-geometry turbocharger ensures shorter response times from low revs (design, choice of materials, patented form of the blades). This technology gave rise to a Renault-registered patent. o Swirl control: variable swirl technology optimises filling of the combustion chambers, while minimising polluting emissions at all loads and engine speeds. o A lower compression ratio (15.4:1): minimises polluting emissions while maintaining a high level of performance thanks to a higher turbo pressure (2.7 bar, an increase of 12 percent over the engine it replaces). o Injector technology: the design of the large combustion chamber bowl permits the use of seven-hole injectors for even greater combustion efficiency (injection over a large volume inside the combustion chamber). o At the same time, capping the injection pressure at 1,600 bar (compared with 1,800 bar) has enabled the size of components to be reduced. ************************** yapılan testlerin bazıları ise: ***** Vibration test: the engine runs for hundreds of hours at 4,000 rpm. The engine is stopped one hour a day to monitor a check-list of points and detect any defects (cracks in parts, leaks, melting from heating). The cycle is repeated 10 million times. Maximum torque/maximum power test: The engine runs for 100 hours at maximum power (130ch at 4,000 rpm) and then for 100 hours at maximum torque (320Nm at 1,750 rpm). This test lasts 600 hours. Hot/cold test: The engine is revved to 4,000 rpm, then stopped for 20 minutes, then taken back up to 4,000 rpm. This cycle is repeated 5,000 times over a eight-week period. The objective is to check that oil and coolant temperatures are consistent with the forecasts of engine engineers. |
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi cncrd -- 19 Mayıs 2011; 15:21:40 >
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ben daha önce yazdım ama gene yazim niye latidude 1.5 edc yok diyenlere reno yeni bir motor üzerinde çalışmalar yapıyor ve yakın bir zamnda piyasaya sunucak 1.6 dcı birde edc olcak diye ve büyük ihtimalle latidude denencek dedim herkes yok ya olurmu dedi ama oldu birde 1 milyon km bir motor bence test olmaz orda bir yanlışlık var bu araba gece gündüz yol yapsa saatte en fazla 100 km yapar buda bir günde napar 2400 km illaki durcak falan bir ayda ise 72.000 km yapar bu senede 864.000 km yapar buda pek mümkün değil bence ama genede emin değilim |
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Helal olsun ne diyelim.Gerçekten başarılı bir motor olmuş kağıt üzerinde gördüğüm kadarıyla. |
| bu motoru megane ye koyarlarsa 0 100 10sn nin altına inebilir..scenic megane ye göre 200kg civarı daha agır |
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evet test kısmında bir hata yapmışım ifadeyi düzeltiyorum. doğrusu 700bin km olacak ilgili motorun basın bültenini buldum. ************ The Cléon site is starting production of the new flagship in Renault’s powertrain range, the Diesel Energy dCi 130 (R9M type). Developed by Renault, the Energy dCi 130 benefits from the know-how of the engineering team at the Rueil-Malmaison centre outside Paris, (Hauts-de-Seine) in the design of benchmark diesel engines, such as the 1.5 dCi, 2.0 dCi, 2.3 dCi and V6 dCi. This Alliance engine will be fitted on Renault and Nissan brands European mid-range vehicles (C segment). At Renault, it will be available primarily on Scénic and then Mégane. Developing 130 hp for a capacity of 1.6l, the new engine slots in between the dCi 110 range (also known as 1.5 dCi or K9K) and the dCi 150 to 180 hp (also known as 2.0 dCi or M9R). This new engine is the first in the new generation of “Energy” combustion powertrains. It features a raft of CO2-reducing technologies never before seen at this level of the range. They include a Stop & Start system with regenerative braking but also, as a European premiere, a new EGR1 cold loop. It will be the most efficient Diesel engine in its category, with fuel consumption and CO2 emissions that are 20% lower than for its predecessor. Renault’s ambition is to produce and make widely available an innovative, high-quality engine that respects the environment. ******** kısaca söylemek gerekirse motor Renault cleon fabrikasında üretiliyor ve geliştiriliyor start stop teknolojisi mevcut motor 1.9lt'nin yerine geliştirildi diğer motorlarda da benzer strateji uygulanacak yapılan testlerin bazıları ise: ***** Vibration test: the engine runs for hundreds of hours at 4,000 rpm. The engine is stopped one hour a day to monitor a check-list of points and detect any defects (cracks in parts, leaks, melting from heating). The cycle is repeated 10 million times. Maximum torque/maximum power test: The engine runs for 100 hours at maximum power (130ch at 4,000 rpm) and then for 100 hours at maximum torque (320Nm at 1,750 rpm). This test lasts 600 hours. Hot/cold test: The engine is revved to 4,000 rpm, then stopped for 20 minutes, then taken back up to 4,000 rpm. This cycle is repeated 5,000 times over a eight-week period. The objective is to check that oil and coolant temperatures are consistent with the forecasts of engine engineers. ******** 4000 devirde sarsıntı testi 10 milyon kez tekrarlanmış maksimum tork güç testi motor 100 saat maksimum güçte 100 saat ardından maksimum torkta çalıştırılmış. test 600 saat sürmüş sıcak soğuk testi: motor 4000 devire çıkarılmış sonra stoplanmış 20 dk sonra tekrar yapılmış bu test 8 hafta 5000 kez yapılmış < Resime gitmek için tıklayın > |
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi cncrd -- 19 Mayıs 2011; 15:29:22 >
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motor yerini aldığı 1.9 lt 130 bg'e göre daha yüksek tork sağlarken aynı zamanda da %20 daha az CO2 salınımı yapıyor. Renault 2012,2013 ve 2016 planlarına göre bu salınımı dolayısıyla yakıt tüketimini çok daha aşağılara çekecek bu demek oluyorki bu yıllar da da yeni motorlar gelecek. < Resime gitmek için tıklayın > |
Ahh ahh açacağı konuları düşünmek istemiyorum |
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önceki mesajda resim net çıkmamış. motor gelişimi 2006'da başlamış 32 ay sürmüş 230 milyon Euro harcanmış 264 kompanent(%75 yeni) kullanılmış 160 mühendis ve teknisyen çalışmış 20 yıl 300bin km'yi temsilen 15000 saat bench test yapılmış 700bin km de pist testi yapılmış < Resime gitmek için tıklayın > |
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meraklısına son bilgi daha aslında çok daha fazla bilgi (örneğin f1'de kullanılan KERS benzeri bir sistem var)var ama konuyu dağıtmak istemiyorum. eski yüksek basınçlı egr ile yeni düşük basınç egr farkı < Resime gitmek için tıklayın > |
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biri beni durdursun bu kez gerçekten son detaylı teknik veriler(scenic için) megane'da çok daha iyi değerler olacaktır < Resime gitmek için tıklayın > < Resime gitmek için tıklayın > |
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Renault alacaklar yıl sonunu beklesinler bence çünkü yeni motorlar piyasaya yavaş yavaş çıkar hemde yıl sonu kampanyalarına denk getirilir |
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