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Hunters are Back!
Offf off nerflere bak. Nasıldı o  mı yazıyordum :D. Ama harbiden bazı konular biraz abartı olmuş, onları törpülerler. Ancak kalanlar bile yeterince süper, tüm hunterları şimdiden tebrik ediyorum. WoLK'un 3 classı belli oldu, TBC'de warlock-rogue-resto druidler yönetti ortamı, WoLK'ta mage,shaman,hunterlar konuşulacak gibi. |
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wowun en komik en saçma ve en gereksiz classı oldu her zaman. daha wowbetada kaldırılmalıydı bu class. |
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Katılıyorum  |
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi Goldthwait -- 16 Ağustos 2008; 10:54:49 >
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| Buradaki buffların hepsi düşük tierler için yapılan değişiklikler. Madem blizzard wotlkde 25tane talenti bufflıcaktı, bari 1kaç tanesini patch 2.4te koysaydı bizde rahat ederdik. Özellikle bm talentleri neredeyse aynı kalmış, hatta bm talentleri trainable yapılmış, mm ve survival ise çok fazla bufflanmış |
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| Warcraft'ın tarihinde önemli bir yeri var özellikle Night Elf hunter'ların ve Dwarf marksman'lerin. Öyle ha diyince kaldıramazsınız yani :) |
Bende aynı şeyi warlock lar için düşünüyorum ... Tek başına 5-man party gibiler  |
Elbette BM fazla bufflanmıyacak. Çünkü özellikle PvE'dede PvP'de tek talent olarak kullanılan BM yeterince güçlü. Blizzard hem PvP'de hem PvE'de diğer talentleride aktij hala getirmeye çalışıyor. Üstelik yeni gelen deriye doğru blink atabilme, Deterrence'ın &60 spell resist vermesi falan fişman gibi bir sürü şey hali hazırda BMyide bufflıyor. Dahası BM'ye gelen Steady Shot'un auto shotı etkilememesi, Steady Shot castinde iken bile auto shotun atılmaya devam edilmesi kafadan %20 dps buff anlamına geliyor. |
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| Hunter ve beklediği buff mı? Söylesene sen oraya bağlı kalmadan ne buff istiyosun? Bunu sana bi mage olarak soruyorum. |
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| yalnız "wotlk da işkence çeken hunter" ifadesi beni baya şaşırttı,gerek pve dps i gerekse BÜTÜN arena bracket larında hunterlar şuan zaten mükemmel bir class,neyin buff ını istiyorsun sen? |
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PvP'de hunterların geri planda kaldığı bir gerçek. Normal gear'lı bir hunter'ın arena'da iş yapması çok zor. Hele ki herkes hunterlara karşı line of sight taktiği kullanırken. Arkadaşın demek istediği de hemen hemen buydu. İşkence çekiyorduk diyemem ama diğer classlardan daha dezavantajlı olduğumuz kesindi arenada. Sadece arena için konuşuyorum. Onun haricinde PvE'de zaten hunter iyi bir classtı. Bufflanmasaydı da çok üzülmezdim bufflandığı için de çok sevinmedim açıkçası. Çünkü bir BM hunter olarak zaten PvP yapmıyordum , PvE'de de istediğim verimi alıyordum. Hunter'a gelen bufflar tamamen Survival ve Marksman'i PvE'de daha kullanılabilir hale getirmek için yapılmış. Ayrıca BM'a buff yok diyen arkadaşlar hunter petlerine gelen yeni talentlara bir göz atsınlar. Aslında en iyi bufflar BM'a gelmiş durumda. Saphrenia'nın da dediği gibi Steady shot'ın auto shot'ı engellememesi zaten başlı başına inanılmaz bir dps artışı demek ki bunun yanında exotic petlere alınacak düzgün talentlarla BM hunterların dps'i çok fırlıcak. |
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BM'ye buff gelmedi diyen benim, zaten dikkat ettiysen eski talentlerde hemen hiç değişiklik yok. Eğer yeni talentleri buff olarak değerlendiriyorsak tüm classlar bufflandı. Blizzard özellikle MM&survival düşük tier talentlerinde oldukça fazla değişiklik yapmış. BM talent ağacını ise çok fazla kişi seçtiği için değiştirmeyi gerek görmemiş hatta bu ağacı seçenlerin bazı özelliklerini de mm&survival seçenler çoğalsın diye trainable yapmış. Petlere gelen yeni talentlere de hepsine baktım, bunlardan tüm hunterlar yararlanacak, aynı şekilde steady-auto shot da tüm hunterların dps arttıracak. Kısacası BM'ye fazla buff yok. Buradan bm çok zayıf bufflansın anlamı çıkmasın, talentlere bakıp değeerlendirme yaptım. |
Birincisi, gelmesi gereken 2 önemli şey daha var. Pet resillience ve LoS.. İkinci olarak hangi pure dps sınıfının heal interrupt edemeyecek bir base skilli yok? (cvp:hunter) Hangi classın trainable bir defans abilitysi yok? Mail giymemize rağmen oyunda en çabuk hasar alan sınıf hunter.. Tüm casterlar hunterdan daha dayanıklı.. Bkz mage iceblock.. Üçüncü ve son olarak oyundaki en iyi kiter class şu an kim? Hunter mı? Tabiki de mage.. Peki oyun yapısına göre en iyi kiter class kim olmalıydı? Tabikide yapısı gereği hunter.. Şuan da bir mage warrioru perfect keserken, nerdeyse bir warrior hunterı perfect kesiyor.. Komik değil mi oyunun en iyi kiter classı melee yi kite yapamaz halde.. (Bu konuştuklarım arena ve Marksmanship hunterlar içindi) @ KraL71 BÜTÜN arena bracket larında hunterlar şuan zaten mükemmel bir class,neyin buff ını istiyorsun sen? Private serverda falan mı oynuyorsun? Şuan da ilk 100 de bir tane hunter yok.. ve 2200 bracketları için hunterın durumu %1-2 olarak değişiyor.. Bu mu mükemmellik? Lütfen yorum yapmadan önce biraz araştır.. |
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi vinsanity703 -- 16 Ağustos 2008; 14:01:47 >
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Vinsanity'nin yukardaki mesajda söylediği herşeyin altına imzamı atarım :) Ayrıca ilk mesajda yazılmayan birkaç yenilik daha var BM hunter'lara gelen ben de onları yazıyım. *Invigoration - When your pet scores a critical hit with a special ability, you instantly regenerate 1/2% mana. (2 Ranks) *Longevity - Reduces the cooldown of your Bestial Wrath, Intimidation and Pet Special Abilities by 10/20/30%. (3 Ranks) *Cobra Strikes - You have a 20/40/60% chance when you critically hit with arcane shot, steady shot, or Kill Shot to cause your pet's next 3 special attacks to critically hit. (3 Ranks) *Beast Mastery - You master the art of Beast training, teaching you the ability to tame Exotic pets and increasing your total amount of Pet Skill Points by 5. (1 Rank) Yeni pet talentları da şöyle: *Spiked Collar - Your pet does an additional 3/6/9% damage with all attacks. (3 Ranks) *Improved Cover - Your pet's Cower also decreases damage taken by 10/20% for the next 10 sec. (2 ranks) *Loyalty - Your pet's attacks have a 10/20% chance to increase its happiness by 10% and heal 5% of its total health. (2 Ranks) *Blood of the Rhino - Increases your pet's total Stamina by 1/2% and increases all healing effects on your pet by 20/40%. (2 Ranks) *Pet Barding - Increases your pet's armor by 3/6% and chance to Dodge by 1/2%. (2 Ranks) *Lionhearted - Reduces the duration of all Stun and Fear effects used against your pet by 15/30%. (2 Ranks) *Carrion Feeder - Your pet can generate health and happiness by eating a corpse. Will not work on the remains of elemental or mechanical creatures. (No Focus, 2 Minute Cooldown) *Intervene - Your pet runs at high speed towards a group member, intercepting the next melee or ranged attack made against them. (40 Focus, 30 Second Cooldown) *Improved Growl - Your pet's Growl generates 10/20% additional threat. (2 Ranks) *Owl's Focus - Your pet has a 5/10% chance after using an ability that the next ability will cost no Focus if used within 8 sec. (2 Ranks) *Cornered - When at less than 35% health, your pet does 25/50% more damage and is 25/50% less likely to be critically hit. (2 Ranks) *Feeding Frenzy - Your pet does 20/40% additional damage to targets with less than 20% health. (2 Ranks) *Spider's Bite - Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your pet by 10/20/30%. (3 Ranks) *Heart Of The Phoenix - When your pet dies, it miraculously returns to life with 10% health. Cannot occur more than once per 10 minutes. (1 Rank, 10 Minute Cooldown) *Grace Of The Mantis - Increases your pet's Dodge chance by 2/4% and hit chance by 2/4%. (2 Ranks) *Wolverine Bite - A fierce attack causing 5 damage that your pet can use after its target dodges. Cannot be dodged, blocked or parried. Requires 3 Points in Great Resistance. (20 Focus, 20 Second Cooldown) *Roar Of Recovery - Your pet's inspiring roar restores 40% of your total mana over 8 sec. Requires 2 Points in Owl's Focus. (30 Focus, 6 Minute Cooldown) *Bullheaded - Removes all movement impairing effects and all effects which cause loss of control of your pet. (40 Focus, 3 Minute Cooldown) *Rabid - Your pet goes into a killing frenzy, increasing attack power by 5%. Successful attacks have a 50% chance to increase attack power by an additional 5%. This effect will stack up to 5 times. Lasts 30 sec.(60 Focus, 10 Second Cooldown) *Lick Your Wounds - Your pet heals itself for 25% of its total health over 10 sec while channeling. (Channeled, 3 Minute Cooldown) *Call Of The Wild - Your pet roars, increasing the melee and ranged attack power of all party members within 20 yards by 5%. Lasts 20 sec. (100 Focus, 5 Minute Cooldown) *Last Stand - Your pet temporarily gains 30% of its maximum health for 20 sec. After the effect expires, the health is lost. (No Focus, 6 Minute Cooldown) *Taunt - Your pet taunts the target to attack it for 3 sec. (No Focus, 3 Minute Cooldown) *Roar Of Fortitude - Your pet roars, increasing the total health and Dodge chance of all party members within 20 yards by 10%. Lasts 40 sec. (100 Focus, 5 Minute Cooldown) BM bufflanmamış mı ? :) |
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi maleficus -- 16 Ağustos 2008; 14:24:46 >
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Hepsi güzel de * *New Talent* - Separation Anxiety (Tier 10) - When your pet is greater than 20 yards from you or is out of line of sight of you, its damage is increased by 2/4/6/8/10%, and when you and your pet are within 20 yards of each other, you and your pet's movement speed is increased by 2/4/6/8/10%. bunu tam anlayamadım.benden 20 yard uzakta olursa benim mi dmg %10 artıor yoksa petin mi.bilmiyorum tier 10 talenti cok daha ii olmalıydı.gerisi güzel deisiklikler. Bi de bi ara Comuflage die skill mi geliyordu ne :) Hunt u gorunmez yapan . heralde vazgectiler |
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"its damage" Yani petin damage'ı artıyor. Camouflage'dan vazgeçtiler evet. |
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Galiba eski halinden biraz nerfleyip vercekler ama genede çok iyi.. Ayrıca bear trapı kaldırdılar onun yerine freezing trap direk herhangi bir dmg de bozulmayacak(fear gibi), şansla bozulcak.. |
Ben bunu gözden kaçırmışım galiba. Ne zaman kalktı, blue postla falan mı söyled? Kaynak varmı? Yoksada sallada harbiden nasıl gözden kaçmış şaşırdım. |
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Beast Mastery
* Master's Call has been removed from the talents and is now a baseline skill. (Source)
* Pathfinding now increases the speed bonus of your Aspect of the Cheetah and Aspect of the Pack by 4/8%, and increases your speed while mounted by 5/10%. The mounted movement speed increase does not stack with other effects. (Old - Didn't increase mounted movement speed)
* Aspect Mastery has been moved from Tier 10 to Tier 3. It is now a 1 point talent and it increases the mana returned from your Aspect of the Viper by 10%, reduces the damage done to you while in Aspect of the Monkey by 10% and increases the attack power bonus gained with Aspect of the Hawk by 50%. (Old version - 5 Points Talent for the same effect)
* Spirit Bond effect changed - While your pet is active, you and your pet will regenerate 2% of total health every 10 sec and increases healing done to you and your pet by 10%. (Old - Didn't increase healing done to you or your pet)
* Animal Handler now Increases your pet's chance to hit by 2/4% and reduces the cooldown of your Master's Call ability by 5/10 sec. (Old - Increases your speed while mounted by 4/8% and your pet's chance to hit by 2/4%.)
* *New Talent* - Separation Anxiety (Tier 10) - When your pet is greater than 20 yards from you or is out of line of sight of you, its damage is increased by 2/4/6/8/10%, and when you and your pet are within 20 yards of each other, you and your pet's movement speed is increased by 2/4/6/8/10%.
Marksmanship
* Improved Stings has been changed from 5 to 3 points - Now increases the damage done by your Serpent Sting and Wyvern Sting by 10/20/30% (Old - 6/12/18/24/30%) and the mana drained by your Viper Sting by 10/20/30% (Old - 6/12/18/24/30%). In addition, reduces the chance Stings will be dispelled by 10/20/30% (Old - 6/12/18/24/30%).
* Trueshot Aura now affects all Raid members.
* Rapid Recuperation has been redesigned - Reduces the mana and focus cost of all shots and abilities by you and your pet by 20/40/60% while under the effect of Rapid Fire, and you gain mana equal to 50/100/150% of the damage you do under the effect of Rapid Killing over 6 sec. (Old - Reduces the mana cost of all shots and abilities by 20/40/60% while under the effect of Rapid Fire and Rapid Killing.)
* Marked for Death now Increases the damage done by your shots and the damage done by your pet's special abilities by 2/4/6/8/10%, on the marked targets, and increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Aimed Shot, Steady Shot, Kill Shot or Chimera Shot by 2/4/6/8/10%. (Old - Didn't affect pet abilities and Chimera Shot)
* Improved Steady Shot doesn't affect Kill Shot anymore and affects Chimera Shot instead.
* Chimera Shot damage down from 150% to 125% of weapon damage. It now refreshes the current Sting on your target instead of consuming it and trigger an effect :
Serpent Sting - Instantly deals 40% of the damage done by your Serpent Sting.
Viper Sting - Instantly restores mana to you equal to 60% of the total amount drained by your Viper Sting. (Old - 30% mana burned and recovered from the target)
Scorpid Sting - Attempts to Disarm the target for 10 sec. This effect cannot occur more than once per 1 minute. (Old - Reduces damage done by the target's next three attacks by 60%. Damage reduction diminished by 20% following each attack.)
Survival
* Savage Strikes doesn't affect Counterattack anymore. (Probably a typo)
* Deflection has been moved from Tier 2 to Tier 3. It now increases your parry chance by 2/4/6%. (Old - 1/2/3/4/5%)
* Survival Instincts has been moved from Tier 5 to Tier 2.
* *New Talent* - T.N.T. (Tier 2) - Your Immolation Trap, Explosive Trap and Explosive Shot have a 5/10/15% to stun targets for 2 sec when they deal damage, and increases the critical strike chance of your Explosive Shot and Explosive Trap by 5/10/15%.
* Survivalist now increases your Stamina by 2/4/6/8/10%. (Old - Increased your Total Health by 2/4/6/8/10%)
* Trap Mastery has been moved from Tier 4 to Tier 3 and is being redesigned - No details yet.
* Improved Feign Death has been renamed to Survival Tactics and moved from Tier 4 to Tier 3. It now reduces the chance your Feign Death ability will be resisted by 2/4%, and reduces the cooldown of your Disengage ability by 2/4 sec. (Old - Reduced FD Resist by 2/4% and damage during FD by 15/30%) Important - Disengage now causes the Hunter to jump back instantly 10-15ish yards to gain distance. 30 second cooldown. (Source)
* Deterrence (When activated, increases the chance to dodge and parry all melee and ranged attacks by 25%, and resist all spell attacks by 60% for 10 sec. ) has been removed from the talents and is now a baseline skill. (Source)
* Surefooted now increases hit chance by 1/2/3% and reduces the duration of movement impairing effects by 16/25/50%. (Old - reduced the duration of movement impairing effects by 10/20/30%)
* *New Talent* - Lock And Load (Tier 4) - You have a 33/66/100% chance when you trap a target and a 5/10/15% chance when you Sting a target to cause your next 3 Arcane Shot or Explosive Shot spells to trigger no cooldown, cost no mana and consume no ammo.
* *New Talent* - Hunter vs. Wild (Tier 5) - Increases you and your pet's attack power and ranged attack power equal to 10/20/30% of your total Stamina.
* Counterattack damage has been reverted to its old value. (This might be a typo, the damage increase is still here in Build 8788)
* Potent Venom has been renamed to Noxious Stings - If Wyvern Sting is dispelled, the dispeller is also afflicted by Wyvern Sting lasting 16/25/50% of the duration remaining, and increases all damage done by you on targets afflicted by your Serpent Sting by 1/2/3%. (Old - Increases your damage done to targets afflicted by your Wyvern Sting or Serpent Sting by 1/2/3%, and reduces the mana cost of your Serpent Sting by 10/20/30%.)
* Hunting Party now gives your Arcane Shot, Explosive Shot and Steady Shot critical strikes have a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to restore 2% mana, 10 energy, 4 rage or 10 Runic Power to all members of your party. (Old - Affected all critical shots and had a 20/30/40/50/60% chance to restore mana/energy/rage/runic power)
* Explosive Shot has been redesigned - You fire an explosive charge into the target, dealing 416-486 Fire damage to the enemy target, and an additional 104-121 Fire damage to all enemies within 5 yards of the target every second for 2 sec. (Old - You fire an explosive charge into the target, dealing 410-480 Fire damage every second for 2 sec to all enemies within 5 yards of the target.)
- Distracting Shot will now be a "Mocking Blow"-esque taunt (so it will taunt the mob onto the Hunter for 6 sec). This will allow you to "peel" monsters to you (and thus to a trap) a lot easier than it is now.
- Freezing Trap will no longer break on damage 100% of the time. It will still break on damage, but on x amount. So if the mob has a DoT on them, or the mob gets cleaved while in Freezing Trap, it won't just immediately break. Because of this, we're canning Bear Trap (since Freezing Trap will accomplish what Bear Trap was intended for, plus you guys have enough keybinds as it is). Note that we don't intend Freezing Trap to be a stun, so the tuning on how much damage will break it will be important.
- Camouflage - We'll be introducing this new spell at level 80. It will give you limited stealth capabilities. A bonus with it is that you can lay your traps while Camouflaged and it won't break the stealth, allowing you to setup your traps before a pull if desired.
- Trap Mastery - This talent will be a 1-point talent now, we've condensed a lot of the trap talents in the Survival tree. It will do stuff like increase damage of Immolate, root the dispeller of your Freezing Trap in ice, increase the number of snakes from your snake trap, etc.
< Bu mesaj bu kişi tarafından değiştirildi vinsanity703 -- 16 Ağustos 2008; 14:06:15 >